[skenop]

After literally years of searching (like many of you), I think I have finally settled on my "next" outlining tool. I definitely acknowledge that nothing comes close to Bonsai. Period. That being said - we gotta go somewhere since the Bonsai option seems to be history.

I am heavily using Wunderlist (http://www.wunderlist.com). It syncs: Windows Desktop, iPhone, iPad, Mac, Android and has a browser UI as well. All synchronized automatically.

Again - it still doesn't match Bonsai for functionality. But I have done a lot of looking, and the synchronization capabilities are the best I have seen. It works.

[skenop]

Oh - I should add - I am using the following versions: Windows, Browser and Mac. I do not have an iPhone, an iPad or an Android device, so I cannot vouch for those devices the way it sounded like I did in my original post.

Just FYI - my phone is WinMo - because I really wanted Bonsai to continue to work for me. But WinMo has no better future than Bonsai :(

[johnd]

skenop, on 01 August 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

Oh - I should add - I am using the following versions: Windows, Browser and Mac. I do not have an iPhone, an iPad or an Android device, so I cannot vouch for those devices the way it sounded like I did in my original post.

Just FYI - my phone is WinMo - because I really wanted Bonsai to continue to work for me. But WinMo has no better future than Bonsai :(

I have been using toodledo.com until recently. There is an iPhone app and a 3rd party Windows app.

Now I'm transitioning to using .CSV files with a Windows application that I wrote myself. I'm getting a bit tired of having to change formats all the time when a company goes out of business or changes format. CSV files should help me be a bit more future-proof. ;)

[ToxJazz]

I have been using Bonsai for a least a decade, and have struggled with the WinMobile or Palm Treo format. My old Palm M500 was a tried and true standby. I've finally entered the 21st Century with an htc Incredible 2 Android phone and found two outlining apps that purport to "sync" with Bonsai (they do import/export)

Android Outliner: http://android-outliner.blogspot.com/
iRT GTasks Outliner: http://www.irtgtasksoutliner.com/

I'm still exploring these. iRT GTasks is much more colorful and featured. I have yet to explore DropBox for real-time wireless sync.

However, I would encourage the group to explore both of these, especially iRT GTasks. It seems that both of these explicitly acknowledge the value of Bonsai. I suppose Natara should be proud of its invention. (??!!)


I'm going to put this post in a number of places.

[Owen]

I too have used Bonsai for almost a decade, from the time in 2003 when I first got a Sony Clie. However I have had to find an alternative, and I have found Toodledo to be the best for task lists, to-do lists and the like. It does not allow multiple levels like Bonsai, because you are limited to Folders (Projects), tasks and sub-tasks.

If you want freeform lists of infinite complecity then it is not for you. However if your needs are more nearly GTD-style planning then it is very good indeed. It has apps for iOS and Android and more. It has a web interface. It integrates with Google calendar and (best of all) it has become a default standard for task lists. There are plugins for Outlook (gSyncit for one) that sync Outlook tasks with Toodledo, and Pocket Informant syncs its task lists with Toodledo.

Toodledo is free, with a very cheap premium version.

Personally, I hardly ever actually use it. I use Pocket Informant on an iPad and Outlook on a laptop on a daily basis, and use Toodledo as the glue to keep all my tasks in sync. Then occasionally I look at Toodledo on the web.

Hope this helps
Owen

[milkytooth]

Try this http://www.noteliner.org/i/Main.html.
You have to try to know how powerful this program is.

[johnd]

The program I alluded to in September (Knowsynotes) is now ready for the world at http://www.knowsynotes.com

I exported both my toodledo.com list and my Bonsai list as CSV and now read them both in my PC using Knowsynotes. I share the CSV files via Dropbox and use CSV Viewer Pro to view and OfficeSuite Pro to edit on my Android phone.

One benefit to reading CSV files with Knowsynotes is that you can create links in the CSV file (using the typical wiki format of [ text note ]) to, yes, text notes or or other CSV files.

[Guilap]

I'm using doit.im for tasks. Very good, several platforms supported, syncs with google calendar too.

But I still miss an alternative to an outliner application which could compare to Bonsai. =(