[lcdBNS]

I am trying to link Bonsai events to an external application called EVERNOTE but it fails

the link in
file:///J:@My_EverNote_FilesDataBasesEverNote_Jobs_Search.enb?guid=[F1C0FF6F-5A2C-E598-F6C67141843F5D94] etc
but it fails recognizing the relative target ?guid=[F1C0FF6F-5A2C-E598-F6C67141843F5D94]

Then I would like to know how should I modify the link to get it fully operating

regards

lcd

[Richard Murphy]

It looks like Bonsai (v4.2.1) is assuming the square brackets are not valid for the URL string and assumes the link stops at the character before the left bracket. Given your description, it sounds like your version is terminating the link at the question mark character. Try updating to the 4.2.1 version of Bonsai and then I would try substituting the [ with %5B and ] with %5D. If this was a web link, I am sure it would work. Given it is a file: give it a try and see what happens.

[tonyb]

I use %20 in file names pretty frequently in file name URLs so I'm guessing the usual substitutions apply.

Tony

[lcdBNS]

first, I am using Bonsai (v4.2.1) / I upgraded last week

As I said before, I am still in the phase of evaluating Bonsai, and I must say I was impressed with the rapidity of the answers to my question, / sure this is a good point for my ( definitive ) choice of Bonsai, even if I think that the product seems to qualify by itself !

1 Bonsai (v4.2.1) is assuming the square brackets are not valid for the URL string
the link stops at the character before the left bracket. > yes
Given your description, it sounds like your version ( then 4.2.1) is terminating the link at the question mark character: yes

2 I tried the substitutes %5B and D, which both worked quite well (the entire link was now recognised), but it continued re-directing to the database of Evernote, and not the article designed ( within the brackets / or %5B %5D ), in the DB of Evernote
I tried others tricks but no one was able to redirect me to the precise target, then don' t know how to resolve it

By the way, I sugest you shopuld have a look at Evernote ( basic version is free ) / beware not becoming an addict, because it is a perfect tool to work with ( Bonsai ) of course

[jdmarch]

I have recently begun using EverNote, and also would very much like this issue resolved, so that these two programs can work together nicely. But I suspect that Bonsai's problem here is a little deeper than just failing to parse the brackets correctly.

lcd, AFAICT, the link which you are trying to use in Bonsai is not formatted like a standard EverNote link, which looks like this:
evernote://filename?guid=[...]
If you paste such a link, for example, into the Windows Run dialog, EN will open at the desired note.
But the link which you are using is of the form:
file:///filename?guid=[..]

At least on my system (Win2K) such a link, invoked from the Windows Run dialog, causes EverNote to open, but not at the desired note. This is precisely what you've reported you are seeing in Bonsai, so I'm guessing that the fundamental problem is that you can't use a file:// link to do what you want to do.

Have you tried your file link, independent of Bonsai (e.g. on a command line or from the Run dialog)? I'm guessing that it won't work anywhere.

If this is correct, then it seems to me that the fundamental enhancement needed in Bonsai to support more links to more applications (such as EverNote) is the ability to handle more than the very limited types of links which it now handles, which are, according to the Bonsai help file, only the following 7 schemes:
http:// https:// ftp:// mailto: file:/// file: outlook:

I would therefore request that Bonsai be enhanced to recognize any valid URL as an external link (not just ones which begin with these 7 arbitrary schemes, and not just ones containing an arbitrarily limited subset of characters. (Today it's square brackets, tomorrow it will be a URL from some other program or web site.) Thanks!

[lcdBNS]

I have recently begun using EverNote, and also would very much like this issue resolved, so that these two programs can work together nicely.
> this is my objective ( see my post in Evernote Forums to know more )

lcd, AFAICT, the link which you are trying to use in Bonsai is not formatted like a standard EverNote link, which looks like this:
evernote://filename?guid=[...]
> because the link Evernote:// etc is not recognised by Bonsai, then I have to use file:/// ( by the way, I had the same problems with MindManager )

If you paste such a link, for example, into the Windows Run dialog, EN will open at the desired note. But the link which you are using is of the form: file:///filename?guid=[..] At least on my system (Win2K) such a link, invoked from the Windows Run dialog, causes EverNote to open, but not at the desired note. This is precisely what you've reported you are seeing in Bonsai, so I'm guessing that the fundamental problem is that you can't use a file:// link to do what you want to do.
> in fact I posted a solution on the Evernote Forum, which was, first to create a link in Windows Explorer, as a shortcut to the Evernote targeted note, then a link in Bonsai in the form of file:///etc .url, to the shortcut created in Explorer.
It works fine, but as it is a two steps process ( with some adaptations, like trimming blank spaces, etc...), it is not as practical as it could be :-(
This is why I was asking the Bonsai team to find a "direct" solution to link to an Evernote note

Have you tried your file link, independent of Bonsai (e.g. on a command line or from the Run dialog)? I'm guessing that it won't work anywhere.
> I have posted a lot of tricky ways to link TO Evernote in the past, mainly from MindManager to Evernote indeed, but I have to give a look at them ( I have forgotten all the steps I wrote at that time )
What would be fine now would be to complement with Bonsai, ( which I have just discocered recently ), - because that "trio" is a Killer ( I am speaking of Bonsai + Mindmanager + Evernote )

If this is correct, then it seems to me that the fundamental enhancement needed in Bonsai to support more links to more applications (such as EverNote) is the ability to handle more than the very limited types of links which it now handles, which are, according to the Bonsai help file, only the following 7 schemes:
http:// https:// ftp:// mailto: file:/// file: outlook: > yes

I would therefore request that Bonsai be enhanced to recognize any valid URL as an external link (not just ones which begin with these 7 arbitrary schemes, and not just ones containing an arbitrarily limited subset of characters. (Today it's square brackets, tomorrow it will be a URL from some other program or web site.) Thanks! > I am waiting too!

Back to Bonsai exports, and to have my "trio" fully functionning, i have to find how to export from Bonsai to Mindmanager ( I can do it through Word, then reimport - but it crashes from time to time ), and it lacks the export of dates and other specificities of Bonsai ( I would like to export/import beetwen the two applications - or fully sync them ) - any ideas?
( could be through an adapted xml file, but i don't know anything about xml )

[jdmarch]

lcd, It seems that you are discussing two issues:

1. Desire for Bonsai to link directly to an Evernote note.

I addressed this in my previous post, requesting that Bonsai gain the ability to recognize any properly formatted URL, which it cannot now do. This would solve the problem not just for Evernote URLs, but for all Windows-recognized URLs.

The indirect solution which you suggest is ingenious but from my perspective is certainly not worth the effort of creating a separate indirection file for every link.

2. The ability to export from Bonsai to Evernote.

Sorry, I have no experience with this except for simple text via the clipboard. (FWIW, in the EN forums, I have requested for EN to correctly interpret the multiple tabs which Bonsai places at the beginning of lower-level outline items - i.e. interpret them in EN as a multi-level ordered list.)


FWIW, I find the formatting of your reply quite hard to follow. More people might read it if you used forum-provided quote formatting so that your new comments could be more easily distinguished from my old ones. But if you are going to use ">" to distinguish, then FWIW I believe that the standard is to place ">" before each section (or line) of quoted text, rather before each section of your reply (which in any case you did not do consistently).

[Richard Murphy]

The v4.2.2 release will now handle Evernote links in the format: evernote://C:UsersfredDocumentsMYEVER~1DataBasesEverNote.enb?guid=[11CAB2D8-744A-E8BA-0C144682872A7557]

When using these links, you will need to avoid using embedded space characters. For example, replace "My EverNote Files" with the short file name "MYEVER~1". You may also be able reconfigure Evernote to use a directory path that does not contain any spaces to avoid needing to edit the link each time you insert it into Bonsai.

We will keep the export to Evernote in mind for future updates.

[jdmarch]

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Originally posted by: rmurphy
The v4.2.2 release will now handle Evernote links

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Yippee-ai-yay!!

Thank you!

FYI the help page "Link to External Resources" does not reflect this change.

Is there a reason why you do not just support all valid URLs (recognized by Windows), rather enable them piecemeal like this depending on a preselected list of recognized schemes?

[Richard Murphy]

Thanks for pointing out the omission in the manual. It will be including for the next update.

As for not supporting all valid URLs, I was trying to get this point release out quickly and did not want to make any major changes. This will be something to consider for future releases.

[lcdBNS]

v4.2.2 release: when, when, when...
it rocks!

and THANK YOU Bonsai team for your reactivity

I have some idea that I am going to promote Bonsai a little bit more...for Evernote users, and MindManager users, and others...-

GREAT software!

then,

Bonsai addict