Natara User Forums

Poll... future platform development

Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:57:49 +0000

Thought I would test out the "Polling" abilities of the new forums. We get asked on a daily basis, now that Palm OS is in (what I consider) major decline, if we are going to be making our products available for other platforms. I thought this would also make a good poll question. You are allowed to choose multiple answers, but try to be somewhat realistic in what you yourself might be using "tomorrow".

Use Daynotez Without Ppc Sync

Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:11:46 +0000

Hi,

I've been a user of Daynotez for several years. I recently bought a netbook and want to use Daynotez on it in addition to my ppc and my main computer. I have an online sync software (syncplicity) that keeps the data on my computers in sync, so I installed DN on my netbook, copied the DB to the same path as on my main pc and imported the registry keys from my main computer on which I do the syncing with my ppc. When I try to start DN on my netbook however, it keeps insisting that it has to sync first. Probably I've overlooked a registry key? How can I make Daynotez work on my netbook without syncing to ppc?
Thanks!
Michel

Syncing And Crash In Windows7 With Bonsai5

Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:44:51 +0000

And I tried Palm Desktop tow version, 4.1.4 and 6.2.But tow got the same crash.
The crash appeared after all Outline sync with p755, and HotSync crashed too.
Who can help me?

Bonsai WM beta sync support of non-touchscreen devices

Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:04:07 +0000

Updated Nov 18 to provide updated information about the current Bonsai beta.
Background Information
Windows Mobile devices configured with two-tier security are not able to run ActiveSync service provider DLLs unless they are signed with a privileged certificate. While Natara signs all of the executables with its code signing certificate, this is not a Windows Mobile privileged certificate and therefore the Windows Mobile device does not recognize these as being signed. If a device is configured for two-tier security, and because the ActiveSync process on the device is running as a privileged process, it can only load DLLs that are also signed with a privileged certificate. Any unsigned DLLs will not load regardless of how security is configured for running unsigned applications. This means the current Bonsai beta will not be able to sync via the ActiveSync/WMDC framework.
Non-touchscreen devices (Windows Mobile Standard- previously called Smartphone devices) generally run in a two tier security model that limits what unsigned applications can do. In very strict security settings, unsigned apps cannot run. It is probably more common that security is configured so the device prompts before running an unsigned application. Therefore, I expect most users will be able to run the Bonsai application on the handheld. If you have a device that does not allow for running unsigned applications, you can probably find tools to "application unlock" your device, possibly even with the help of your service provider.
Now for the bad news. Even if your device allows unsigned applications to run, your device will not load the Bonsai ActiveSync component when a sync operation begins if the device is configured for two tier security.
With the current beta, the wizard used to install Bonsai to your device will detect if you device is configured for two-tier security. If it is configured this way, a dialog will be display explaining this. At this point you have two options:
Continue the install and a "sync on device connect" will run when the device is connected:
Bonsai will configure a process to run whenever your Windows Mobile device is connected. There are two drawbacks with this option. The sync only occurs when the device is connected. If you modify an outline with the device already connected, it will not be synced automatically like it would if the ActiveSync component was working. Second, during the "sync on device connect" the process will have limited ability to notify the Bonsai app on the handheld that a sync is beginning. Normally, the Bonsai app will save the outline being viewed if it is modified at the start of the sync and reload it once the sync is complete. This notification does not occur so instead the sync will attempt to make a RAPI call to close the Bonsai application. This may or may not work depending on device security. Since Bonsai auto-saves the outline periodically on the handheld, in most cases I would not expect Bonsai to have a modified unsaved outline opened when the device is connected. This may not be a big deal for most users but it is something to keep in mind.

Provision your device to use a one-tier security model:
Of course this does has security implications and it s entirely your decision whether you can and if you want to make this change. Keep in mind all of the WM Professional and Classic devices generally run in a one-tier security model. Natara will not be able to provide assistance in reconfiguring your device to use a one-tier security model as the tools available vary based on which device you own.

Needless to say, we plan to have a solution to this issue near or shortly after the time of the product release. We plan to have our ActiveSync DLL signed with a privileged certificate so it will load on devices using a two-tier security model.

Microsoft has a handy tool to examine the configuration of your device called Security Configuration Manager. While it can be used to provision your device (i.e. change the security settings), it will also update your certificate stores. I DO NOT recommend you use this tool to provision your device using the "built-in" profiles as you would not want the changes to the certificates that would be applied.

Registration Problem After Centro Replacement

Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:03:52 +0000

I keep getting an error message that Bonsai is not registered after I synchronize my new replacement Centro with my computer. My computer is using Bonsai desktop ver 5.0.3. Bonsai on my Palm Centro is ver 4.2.7 The registration numbers are different. If I try to make them the same, I get more error messages. If I put regist # from the computer onto the Centro it says it doesn't match my name (which btw I have never changed). If I put the regist # from the Centro into the computer, it says it is an older regist # and won't accept it. How can I get this message to stop appearing? I didn't have this problem before I got my replacement Centro.

FoxMulder's GTD 2.0 for Bonsai

Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:13:52 +0000

I'm wondering if anyone has a copy of FoxMulder's GTD 2.0 Template for Bonsai (I have the desktop sync version). I posted a request for it on his PalmOrganized.com website a few days ago but he seems to be out right now and I'd like to get a copy to start GTDing right now. If you know of a site on the Internet I could download it, I'd be most appreciative. Otherwise if a site does not exist please email it to me. To email me a copy please input the following email address into your email program:

1) first start with the proper name 'David' and then add a dot after it
2) then add the proper name 'Alan' and then add a dot after it
3) then add the proper name 'Hart' and then add the at sign after it
4) then add the name 'gmail' then add a dot
5) finally add com to the end.

Question About Sort

Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:22:51 +0000

Is it possible to make "-" appear at the end after a ascending sorting for either Priority or Due Date?
Like, 2/8, 2/10, "-".

Syncing Usb/desktop/treo

Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:18:07 +0000

Hi All:

I'm running bonsai on my laptop, as well as having a copy on my USB thumb drive. I'd like to keep my Projects outline on my thumb drive to update at work, while keeping a version on my laptop as well as my palm. I can synchronize USB <-> laptop well enough, and I can synchronize Laptop <-> palm just fine. However, it seems that having the thumb drive plugged in when I sync Laptop <-> Palm doesn't update the Palm. Am I doing something wrong here?

Dave

Daynotez

Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:30:31 +0000

I have been using daynotez for a couple of years with no problems on my axim x50
I had to reset my computer(xp) and ended up having to redo daynotez on the axim and the pc.
At this time I am getting a error that says
unable to open database at \My Documents\Natara\Daynotez\DynotezDb3.sdf. Reason: error code 80004005
Minor error: 28609
Message: unspecified error [ My Documents\Natara\Daynotez\DaynotesDb3.sdf ]
source: SQL Server Compact ADO.NET Data Provider
err. par. : My Documents\Natara\Daynotes\DaynotezDb3.sdf

i have searched the forum and tried changing the db name, no luck
tried to get a error log and when i double click the files they give me the file properties.
this is a newer version of what i was using, any way to go back to the old version?
any help would be appreciated

Password Lost

Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:24:59 +0000

I stopped using my Palm TX for almost a year (blame it on my Blackberry and Circa notebook). Now I want to go back to it, and one of the apps I want to use is Daynotez. But I cannot remember the password! How can I fix this?

Natara Apps Running On Pre

Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:07:15 +0000

I just watched the video found at http://motionapps.blogspot.com/ and was so happy I almost started crying!!!! Do you think that the desktop will be able to sync with the Pre via Classic Mode?

Best Regards,
Dwight...

Bonsai V.5 Rendered Unusable Due To "Find" Function

Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:49:40 +0000

I just upgraded to Bonsai v.5. The "find" function searches for the string "one character at a time" and has rendered Bonsai v.5 essentially unusable to me.

I have a huge outline that is carefully organized with appropriate branches expanded and closed depending on what I'm working with. The new "find" function expands trees as each character of the search string is input. By the time the entire string is entered, yes, it has found the final string as a whole, but I may have multiple trees expanded that were previously closed. Use the "find" function a few times and my whole outline is a mess and I have to go back and close all the branches except the ones I had opened. Annoying and, what's worse, unnecessary.

I'm a huge Bonsai fan but you guys really made a boo-boo here if there is no option to have it NOT search "one character at a time" and instead just find the "whole string" once entered.

Is there? If not, how do I "downgrade" back to v.4?

Categories In Filters Are Merged To Single Line

Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:29:53 +0000

When using multiple categories in a filter, these are merged to single one on the mobile device.

Palm Pre -- Bonsai Performace?

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:40:35 +0000

Is Palm Pre much better in terms of Bonsai performance run on Classic, compared to PalmOS devices?

Has anyone tried large outlines on Pre, or other tasks where Bonsai is not very fast on PalmOS?
Does it really work two times faster as MotionApps promises universally?

I am considering Palm Pre as a replacement for my old PalmOS device--but as long as there's no promise for native WebOS port of Bonsai, only performance improvement can be a factor in favor of Pre over "buy just another Treo PalmOS device".

Thanks!

Bonsai Winmobile: Estimated Date For Performance And Stability?

Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:57:26 +0000

As Beta announcement of Bonsai for WinMobile reads, the product is still early beta in terms of both stability and performance--especially warning heavy users like myself that (a) performance maybe become an issue with several-thousands-of-items outlines, and (B) corruptions still may occur from time to time.

Three questions:
1) If we compare Bonsai performance on a latest PalmOS device with an average WinMobile device, how seriously is WinMobile version is slower? (I would be happy if you had data specifically for PalmOS Treo 680 VS a 528MHz-Qualcomm CPU-powered WinMobile HTC--but I hope that any other pair would give an idea for performance comparison)

2) If WinMobile is slower these days--how serious do you plan to improve its performance by the time WinMobile Bonsai goes out of Beta?

3) Can you give an idea of date when WinMobile can be released out of Beta? Is it more like in 3 months or in a year from now?

Thanks a lot, and have a great 2010!

View Of Keyword Icons

Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:20:23 +0000

Question: When viewing an outline, the icons in the Keyword Icons column are scrunched and slightly distorted. Is it possible to have them shown at full-size (like the Category Icons are)?
Tip: Others may have already discovered/posted this... I like to be able to assign random icons to branches. I picked my most-used icons and made a bunch of keywords named after what the image looks like, "Printer," "Smiley," "Clock," etc. Assigning one of these "keywords" is essentially the same as assigning a custom icon (like you can do in DateBk6, Agendus, etc).

Duplicates, Multi-Select, How?

Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:35:34 +0000

Hi all, I have a simple question - can't find an answer. I have a bunch of duplicates in my Palm version and my desktop. Is there any way to select multiple entries and delete them all. Standard CTRL Click doesn't work on the desktop. What am I missing?

-Thanks, Gordon

Native Webos Bonsai For Palm Pre/Pixie

Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:26:06 +0000

Please... I miss having Bonsai on my handheld, and running it via Classic is a hassle and misses out on the WebOS-specific interface improvements. WebOS is a great platform, very actively supported and continually enhanced by Palm, and it already has two devices using it. While the Pre and Pixi have so far been exclusive to Sprint in the US, they are about to be released by other carriers too including Verizon.

I hope you guys haven't given up on Palm. They were misguided and allowed their platform to languish for quite a while, but I know I'm not alone in having my love for Palm renewed by WebOS. Come join the party!

Filter Problem On Winmobile

Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:41:17 +0000

Each time you edit a filter on the mobile device you have to enter the name of the filter again. This is very annoying.

Future Of Bonsai Desktop

Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:49:22 +0000

I'm wondering what the future holds for Bonsai Desktop. To be blunt, I love this software and consider it tops in its category. However, it seems the development has stopped. I have left this software probably 5 times and have returned every single time! It's simple and powerful and full of features. I know you guys don't like to announce your plans (not sure why?), but I hope I'm not alone in encouraging you to take this software to the next level.
The desktop software is really really good, but could use some additional features and some visual upgrades.
I'm not sure where the handheld market is going. I still use my Treo 700P even with some of its limitations. Windows mobile seems stuck in the mud. Seems google android, Apple Iphone, or Blackberry are the most popular. I know there are many Bonsai handheld users who are wanting to upgrade their hardware, but want Bonsai to go with them.

Hope all is well with you guys. I appreciate your software. Hope you continue to develop it or pass it on to someone who will. My intent is not to criticize, but to motivate. Thanks for listening to this one "power user's" opinion.

Search Dialog

Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:38:10 +0000

Could you please link the 'No' button of the "Bottom of outline reached searching for 'abc'. Continue search from top?" dialog to the escape key.

Thanks,
Tony

Webos Version

Sat, 23 Jan 2010 04:40:28 +0000

As a long time users of Natara apps such as Bonzai and Daynotez on my Palm Treo devices, I'm hoping that Natara will produce versions for the WebOS. Any chances of this occurring?

Bonsai Replacement On Other Platforms

Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:34:52 +0000

I wonder what application you chosen (or considered) as a replacement to Bonsai on your non-PalmOS device (i.e. Blackberry / iPhone / Symbian / Android)?

What application proved the best GTD application for your needs?
And what app has replaced the outliner functionality since you had to leave Bonsai?

How happy you are with the replacement(s)? (I realize that the really happy users are not watching Bonsai forums any more :-) -- but nonetheless).

(by best GTD application I mean that it's quite realistic that someone used Bonsai for GTD for a long time, but found something that is not an outliner but does the GTD job pretty well. Like Things for Mac, for example--which is hardly a serious outliner--but really popular for GTD. However, personally I'm interested in something with Windows desktop app bundled with a smartphone software)

Thank you, and happy New Year!

Apply Keywords/category And Archive Completed Items

Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:36:35 +0000

two feature request:
- a function to implement an "archive" completed task. instead of deleting them, I'd like tocreate a mirro outline structure where I can automatically export completed items
- when I copy/cut/past branch or drag and drop it, I'd like to have an option that automatically applies category, keywords, date and so on (I'd like to choose what) of the new parent item (something similar to "inherit" function of MyLifeOrganized). IE: if I cut task 1 and paste it as child of task 2, I'd like to chose to automatically apply existing category and so of task2 to task 1 (pasted)

Daynotez Desktop Without Pda / Hh Sync

Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:47:58 +0000

Hi

My PDA / HH broke down a while ago and I have continued to use Daynotez desktop for a lot of my work which requires regular journal entries. I am now moving to a new laptop and just became aware that I cannot access my migrated Daynotez notes without doing a hotsync with a HH device. I have many hundreds of Daynotez entries which I am unable to access on my new laptop. Help with a workaround or some solution to this problem would be much appreciated!

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